Palo Alto Networks (TICKER: PANW) Palo Alto Networks Inc Panw Ceo Nikesh Arora On Q4 2021 Results Earnings Call Transcript
Palo Alto Networks, Inc. (NASDAQ:PANW) Q4 2021 Results Conference Call
August 23, 2021 4:30 PM ET
Company Participants
Nikesh Arora - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Dipak Golechha - Chief Financial Officer
Lee Klarich - Chief Product Officer
Clay Bilby - Head of Investor Relations
Conference Call Participants
Saket Kalia - Barclays
Keith Weiss - Morgan Stanley
Rob Owens - Piper Sandler
Brian Essex - Goldman Sachs
Michael Turits - KeyBanc
Jonathan Ho - William Blair
Gray Powell - BTIG
Matthew Hedberg - RBC
Joel Fishbein - Trust Securities
Keith Bachman - BMO
Ben Bollin - Cleveland Research
Clay Bilby
Good day and welcome everyone to Palo Alto Networks Fiscal Fourth
Quarter of 2021, Earnings Conference Call. I am Clay Bilby, head of
Palo Alto Networks Investor Relations. Please note that this call is
being recorded today, Monday, August 23, 2021, at 1:30 PM Pacific Time.
With me on today's call, Nikesh Arora our Chairman and Chief Executive
Officer, and Dipak Golechha, our Chief Financial Officer. Our Chief
Product Officer, Lee Klarich, will join us in the Q and A session
following the prepared remarks. You can find the press release and
information to supplement today's discussion on our website at
investors.PaloAltoNetworks.com.
While there, please click on the link for the events and presentations
where you will find the investor presentation and supplemental
information. In the course of today's conference call, we will make
forward-looking statements and projections that involve risk and
uncertainty that could cause actual results to differ materially from
forward-looking statements made in this presentation. These
forward-looking statements are based on our current beliefs and
information available to management as of today, risks, uncertainties,
and other factors that could cause actual results to differ are
identified in the safe harbor statements provided in our earnings
presentation and our SEC filings, Palo Alto Networks assumes no
obligation to update the information provided on today's call.
We will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP
financial measures are not prepared in accordance with GAAP and should
not be considered as a substitute for or superior to measures of
financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. We have
included tables that provide reconciliations between non-GAAP and GAAP
financial measures in the appendix to the presentation and in our
earnings release, which we have filed with the SEC.
We have several upcoming events, including a virtual Analyst Day on
September 13th, starting at 9:30 a.m. Pacific Time. Nikesh Arora, our
chairman, and CEO along with members of the executive team will provide
an in-depth review of the Company, including growth strategies,
financial objectives, and capital allocation framework. Management is
also scheduled to participate and upcoming virtual investor conferences
in September hosted by Citibank and Piper Sandler. And now I will turn
the call over to Nikesh.
Nikesh Arora
Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to Palo Alto Networks Q4
conference call. I'm trying something new today so please bear with me.
You just got an opportunity to see our ad campaign. You're the first
people to see it. We spent a lot of time working hard, trying to
understand what our customers really want to see from us. And the
constant drumbeat we've got from them is innovation at the forefront of
cyber security. Our ad campaign called "We've Got Next" amplifies the
innovation that our teams have been delivering and our promise that we
will be there with you as your partner.
We've Got Next. I look forward to seeing this ad be the drumbeat for
all of our broadcast media and covering our many platforms over time as
we go out in the public domain and keep sharing this with our
customers. Moving on as you all are well aware, we've had a series of
cyber security events over the last quarter against the backdrop of
what we are seeing supply chain attacks, where bad actors tried to hack
into core infrastructure pieces, which allows an access to enterprises
or government systems. These vulnerabilities are being exploited by
ransomware actors. The ransomware threat continues to rise.
Our Unit 42 team research shows that the average ransom demand in the
first half of this year, grew from 5.3 million, which is up 518%
year-over-year. What these attacks are highlighting is the constant
shortcomings of enterprises and of government's infrastructure
continually spurring demand and consolidation, as companies reevaluate
their cyber security posture. It's against this backdrop that our
platform approach is working. Three years ago, at our analysts' day, we
set out the strategy of the Company on three fundamental tenets. One,
that the network will transform with the introduction of the cloud.
This has accelerated with the pandemic, with SASE and virtual firewalls
leading transformation.
Not only that, we supplemented our firewall platform strategy with
software capabilities like DLP, IoT, SaaS visibility, DNS Security and
SDRAM. Our second insight, whilst the cloud is going to be big and it's
here to stay. We have now 7 modules in our Cloud security platform,
which is being used by over 75 Fortune 100 companies. And our third
insight was more AI and machine learning will be needed to support the
automation of our security platforms and our security operating
centers. Out Cortex platform validates that for us every single day.
Underpinning this innovation strategy has been a flurry of product
releases at Palo Alto Networks. When I came to the Company, we sat down
and decided what we need to do was to get our innovation and product
strategy right.
Something many cyber security companies have struggled to do is stay
relevant. You can see from the slide, we've gone from 13 major releases
to 29 this year, tripling our product release capability over 3 years.
Of these 63 odd releases, 11 of these -- 64 sorry. 11 of these have
been through acquisitions. The other 53 have been done through organic
innovation in the Company. And this is not all, we're going to see a
lot more innovation coming down the pike as we unfold this year, we
will tell you more about this in the Analysts Day. A rapid pace of
innovation is also being validated by the industry. If you look at this
slide, we're recognized by two -- in two categories for leadership in
cybersecurity.
In FY '21, we were awarded 6 different accolades to validate that now
we're leaders in 6 different categories. Our aspiration is to grow that
category leadership over this year, and hopefully get to double-digits
by the end of this year. So, our pace of innovation is alive and it
continues. Breaking down into the three different platform pillars, our
network-driven pillar, which has been driven by SASE and virtual
firewalls. I know at the beginning of the pandemic there was a huge
debate, like how long is the work-from-home trend going to last. All I
can tell you is it's far from over as it's going to become the norm.
Hybrid work is about to become the norm and SASE is going to lead that
transformation.
In this environment, all applications need access to every app from any
location. Only Palo Alto Networks can provide a comprehensive
capability with our consistent Network Security across all our
platforms. We saw a phenomenal month number of large deals in this
category, one of our largest deals was with the bank in the JPAC
region, where it's highly competitive and our customer spent over $10
million for Prisma Access was a cornerstone of that strategy. After a
phenomenal amount of growth in our SASE product category, we've seen
our customer count grow by 50% and now it's almost 2500 customers.
Also, 25% of these customers are net new Palo Alto Networks, which is
great, not only are our firewall customers buying products of Palo Alto
Networks, but our many new product capabilities are allowing us to
penetrate the customer base even further. Beyond initial demand
received for Prisma Access in our SASE category, we realized customers
want more capability. We recently announced Autonomous Digital Endpoint
Monitoring - Experience Management, sorry, ADEM. which [SASE] (ph)
becoming a standard. We realized that bundling the ADEM capabilities
with other capabilities around Prisma Access allows us to uplift our
Prisma Access deals over time by 25%. In addition to our SASE
leadership, last quarter we introduced our 4th generation hardware with
high performance and attractively priced appliances.
The newly introduced PA400, which is ten times the performance of its
predecessor, will expand our presence in the enterprise branch, SMB,
international markets. Most recently in our quarter, a U.S., Canadian
store chain that previously used us only at the corporate
infrastructure, deployed PA400 series to 23,000 stores. Also on the
high end of our hardware strategy we're beginning to start seeing
refreshes. This has been a trend which had been subdued, people were
holding back, sweating their assets during the pandemic. And we
realized as the pandemic has eased up, as companies are starting to
come back to work, they're seeing volumes go up. They have not created
more infrastructure.
As a result, we're seeing customers are coming back even in a hybrid
form, starting to do refreshes in the hardware category, which has led
to the hardware growth we saw this quarter, which is also underpinned
some of the network-driven growth - our network platform-driven growth
for us at Palo Alto Networks. Last but not the least, we continue to
maintain a leadership position in our virtual firewalls. Recently
launched our partnership with Google, powering their new Cloud IDS with
our VM Series. As you can see, the continued acceleration of our
software follow-up business, and its multiple form factors has allowed
us to deliver approximately 47% of [Indiscernible] billings in a
quarter where we even saw hardware growth accelerate.
We finished our fiscal year '21 with our software firewalls and Prisma
SASE, next-generation security ARR at $425 million. As you will see,
these numbers will add up to show that our NGS ARR for the quarter was
north of 1180. Moving to our Cloud platform. As you know, we caught
this trend early, investing three years ago in the cloud-native
security opportunity. You might have all seen the flurry of activity
from venture capitalists trying to flood this market with a lot more
cloud security companies. We're delighted that they're validating our
strategy, but we think we're far ahead. A key measure we use for
understanding how well our Prisma Cloud services are performing is the
consumption of our Prisma Cloud service.
In Q4, we had 2 million credits consumed. These consumptions broadening
beyond our initial modules of Cloud Workload Protection and CSBM. We've
launched IAM and [Indiscernible] modules. We already have seen adoption
by north of 100 customers in the quarter. Or one-quarter of our global
2,000 customers are Prisma Cloud customers, with total customers
growing at 47%. We're also excited that with our Bridgecrew
acquisition, we've seen increased adoption of Bridgecrew as customers
shift left with cloud security; we're delighted with the results so
far, and the progress we're making in integrating Bridgecrew with
Prisma Cloud. We continue to see very large deals with Prisma Cloud.
Our top three customers in Prisma Cloud committed over $40 million to
bookings this quarter.
Our largest deal was $20 million in Prisma Cloud with a customer
expanding Cloud Workload Protection and CSP and adding Bridgecrew for
the entire cloud platform. Including our marketplace, VM Series, our
Prisma Cloud business finished FY 21 with an ARR of $300 million.
Moving on to Cortex. In Cortex, we have 2900 customers for our XDR Pro
and XSOAR products, nearly doubling year-over-year. We booked our very
first over $10 million follow-on transaction for Cortex in the pharma
industry. Driven by the platform approach, our customers who bought
most of the platform, they want XDR, they want network traffic
analysis, they want XSOAR. Today, we announced XDR 3.0.
This expands our pioneering XDR service to cloud and identity based
threats giving organizations a single console for holistic analysis.
Expanse continues to innovate as a leader in the emerging attack
surface management space, as well as delivering unique integrations
with our Palo Alto portfolio. In Q4, released Expanse Capability that
enables unknown Cloud assets to be discovered and brought under the
management of Prisma Cloud. We finished FY `21 with Cortex NGS ARR of
over $400 million. And last but not the least, we are very excited
about Unit 42. Unit 42 is our capability where we can actually
proactively support our customers.
This is how we go from being a peacetime company that provides products
to our customers to a wartime ally when we are there for them when they
need us. We launched proactive capability last quarter and our Unit 42
team our business went up 11 x in Q4 for the pr0-active services
capability. One of the key engagements we are experiencing is
ransomware readiness. We have 39 ransomware readiness assessments,
where we got engaged and we have 300 more in the pipeline. Over time,
we expect this service engagement to allow us to increase our product
pull-through to our customers.
You can see that our leadership signs, where customers are integrating
security and consolidating. As a company, we've continued to focus on
getting more presence in our customers and getting larger deals with
them. I'm delighted to say we had 18 customers sign transactions over
$10 million in the quarter. We had our first customer that surpasses
$100 million in their booked business during a fiscal year as they
standardized from Palo Alto Networks across the entire enterprise. And
our Millennium customers were up to 986 in Q4, approximately up 30% for
the third quarter in a row.
The strategy is showing in our financial results, you can see we saw
revenue acceleration in Q4 to $1.2 billion. We also saw that our
billings went up to $1.8868 billion was up 34%, and our NGS billing of
1.18 billion was in excess of our guidance. Also delighted that our FY
'21 performance where ClaiSec had an ARR of $734 million and revenue of
$602 million.
Going into FY '22, we're further aligned around our One Palo Alto
Networks strategy where we see the benefits of being able to cross-sell
our platform. Also, I'm very delighted to say we had our first $2
billion quarter ever. I know you see the billions in the 1.868. But if
you look at the difference between our [RPO](ph) and our revenue, we
actually did more than $2 billion of book business this quarter. It's
kudos to our team out there in the field and our customers who trust us
with their cybersecurity.
During Q4, it is clear that we continue to see momentum in our
business. We saw product revenue accelerated [Indiscernible]. This is
revenue which we believe will sustain into one Q1 because we're seeing
the refresh come in and we didn't ship everything that we saw in our
product business in Q4 or are not able to. We're also seeing phenomenal
growth in our cross-platform adoption. You can see that customers --
43% of our customers purchased all 3 of our platforms. 28% purchased
two platforms, and 29% purchased one platform. What's interesting is
for customers that have acquired two of our platforms, deal sizes were
three times the deal size for single platform. Also, for Global 2,000
customers that acquired All three of our platforms, some of the deals
were 14 times the deal size of the largest single platform deal. So
it's very interesting to watch our platform approach of consolidation
is beginning to show signs of success as we are able to go convince our
customers that they should be deploying more than just one of our
platform categories.
It is clear to us that our transformation is working. In September
2019, on our Analyst Day we provided FY `22 targets. Our just-released
FY `22 guidance materially exceeds the FY `22 targets we set back in
2019, as you can see. As Dipak will highlight, our total company growth
for revenue is the mid-twenties ahead of our prior [20%] (ph) CAGR
target for two years ago. Our business is transforming faster, NGS is
growing faster. I look forward to sharing new guidance for you for the
next phase of Palo Alto Networks for the next three years at our
Analyst Day in September.
But it's clear that over the last 3 years our product and strategic
transformation to being an innovator in cybersecurity is working. Now
we have to share the strategy over the next 3 years of how we continue
to scale this business effectively and efficiently.
Multiple drivers give us conviction in objectives for FY `22 and
beyond. Just to lay it out for you, how do I see growth for FY `22? And
how do I see our scaling into that growth? One, I believe there is some
pent-up hardware demand and we're going to see that come through in Q1
and the rest of FY `22. We've also launched new form factor hardware
and we are very excited about the initial response by the customers to
this new category of hardware. We also continue to benefit from the
cloud adoption around the industry. And we think that benefit continues
going to FY '22. As I said, work-from-home is a new normal. It's not
something that's over.
I don't think the SASE train has barely left the station. I think
there's a lot of room to go, not just for FY '22, but also beyond. And
last but not least, I don't believe manual processes can keep up with
the accelerating pace of sophistication for cybersecurity. So, I
believe there is tremendous growth going forward, both for the
cybersecurity industry and for Palo Alto Networks. On the scale front,
we introduced the concept of speedboats 3 years ago. Our speedboat
model is working well, we continue to iterate and improve it for growth
and productivity.
We also see our multiple platform success. We believe there's room for
synergies as we get into a more cohesive sales motion as we start to
see these things working. There is also some products which we have not
yet launched, which you will see us launch during the course of the
year. And we hope as we launch those products, there you're going to
start seeing the benefits of our innovation and investments during this
year and following years. And our journey to the Cloud is well
underway. But we also have much to go in terms of optimizing our cloud
spend. So, we believe there is an opportunity to create margin
expansion over the long term. We also believe there is sustainable
growth in the cybersecurity industry.
We expect to see these drivers of our topline combine with the
continued but moderate pace of investment in FY '22 as we plan to add
fewer employees in `22 than we did in the FY `21. Part of this is our
expectation that acquisitions will be incremental versus substantive in
the coming year. Beyond FY `22, we expect to grow operating income
faster than revenue. We will update investors further on this at our
September 13th Analyst Day. Ending I started, you can see why we are
excited to talk about We've Got Next as we head into FY '22. With that,
I will turn over the call to Dipak to talk about the details of our Q4
performance and our guidance.
Dipak Golechha
Hello everyone. Before I begin, please note that all comparisons are on
a year-over-year basis, unless specifically noted otherwise. We
delivered results ahead of our guidance across all metrics as we
continue to grow and transform our business. In Q4, we saw sequential
revenue acceleration driven by strength in our hardware appliance
business and in our next-generation security portfolio. We also
continued to grow billings and our remaining performance obligation
ahead of revenue as we build future predictability with the higher mix
of recurring revenue. As a reminder, billings is total revenue plus the
change in total deferred revenue, net of acquired deferred revenue.
In the fourth quarter of 2021, we delivered billings of $1.87 billion,
up 34% and well ahead of our guided 22% to 23% growth. The size of the
deals with our large strategic customers grew and our total customer
account expanded with over 2500 customers added in the quarter. Q4
revenue of $1.2 to $2 billion grew 28% and was above the high end of
our guidance range. Growth was driven by strong demand across all
geographies and major product areas. Total deferred revenue in Q4 was
$5.02 billion, an increase of 32%. The remaining performance obligation
or RPO was $5.9 billion, increasing 36%. We believe that RPO has
meaningful insight into our backlog as it includes both prepaid and
contractual commitments from customers. By geography, Q4, revenue
growth swaps strong across all regions. The Americas grew 29%. EMEA was
up 25% and APAC grew 28%.
A hardware appliance business accelerated in Q4, driving product
revenue of $339 million, growing 11%, and contributing 28% of revenue.
Customer reaction to our refreshed on the 400 series and 5400 series
appliances was positive. We saw strength overall in network and data
center refresh and appliance coal through from customers standardizing
on our platform. Subscription revenue of $535 million increased 37%,
support revenue of $345 million increased 35%. In total subscription
and support revenue of $880 million increased 36% and accounted for 72%
of our total revenue. The gross margin was 75.3% up 100 basis points as
compared to last year, driven by improvements in both our products and
services gross margin. While the top-line outperformed, the operating
margin was 17.5% down year-over-year as expected.
At some pre-COVID expenses returned in the fourth quarter and we
continue to hire top talent, adding headcount in our go-to-market and
engineering organizations. We ended the fourth quarter with 10,473
employees. Net income for the fourth quarter increased 12% to $162
million, or $1.60 per diluted share. A non-GAAP tax-effective --
effective tax rate was 22% GAAP net loss was $119 million or $1.23 per
basic and diluted share. For the full-year billings of $5.45 billion
grew 27% and total deferred revenue was $5.02 billion, an increase of
32%, fiscal year revenue of $4.26 billion grew 25%, an operating margin
of 18.9% was up 130 basis points as COVID related impacts led to lower
operating expenses throughout the year. Non-GAAP net income increased
27% to $614 million or $6.14 per diluted share.
Turning now to the balance sheet and cash flow statements. We finished
July with cash equivalents and investments of $3.8 billion, day sales
outstanding was 74 days, a decrease of 7 days from a year ago, driven
by a combination of strong collections and improved billings linearity.
Cash flow from operations was $326 million, free cash flow was $298
million as compared to $302 million last year with a margin of 24.5%
For the full-year free cash flow was $1.39 billion, was up 69% with a
margin of 32.6%. Adjusted free cash flow for the year was also $1.39
billion up 43% with the full-year margin of 32.6%, Cash conversion
remains an important part of our framework in supporting total
shareholders.
Our firewall is a platform or F swaps billings grew 26%, reflecting
another strong quarter as we continue to grow faster than the market.
While we saw an increased contribution to the firewall as a platform
growth due to increased product demand. A majority of firewall is a
platform growth continues to be driven by software firewalls, including
our VM series and Prisma SASE. Next-generation Security or NGS, exited
the year at $1.18 billion, exceeding our original guidance of $1.15
billion. Within NGS, we continue to see exceptional growth in our SASE
and software firewall portfolio, as well as strength in Prisma Cloud
and Cortex.
For ClaiSec we were happy to have achieved results that were consistent
with our fiscal year 21 financial goals. As we have gone through our
fiscal year 22 business planning and oriented the focus of the Company
around one Palo Alto Networks. We wanted to ensure our metrics reflect
this one Palo Alto Networks strategy. We believe a focus on NGS ARR
growth, and our transformation metrics are the best measures of
progress on our strategy. In the appendix of our earnings slide deck,
we've included the fiscal year '21 results and that SEC and Clay SEC.
Our capital allocation priorities are unchanged and aligned with the
optimization of long-term shareholder return.
We remain focused on investments for organic growth and targeted
value-creating acquisitions. We didn't close any acquisitions in Q4.
And at this time, we believe we have assembled the key pillars needed
to execute our platform strategy. We expect the incremental M and A in
fiscal year 22 as compared to the recent past. Under our share
repurchase authorization during the quarter, we acquired approximately
846,000 shares on the open market at an average price of approximately
$388 for a total consideration of $328 million. Our Board of Directors
authorized an additional $676 million for share repurchase, increasing
the remaining authorization for future share repurchases to $1 billion,
expiring December 31st, 2022.
Moving now to guidance and modeling points for the first quarter of
2022, we expect billings to be in the range of $129 billion to $131
billion, an increase of 19% to 21%. Revenue is expected to be in the
range of $1.19 to $1.21 billion, an increase of 26% to 28% Q1 product
revenue growth percentage to be in the low double-digits, we are
providing this transparency, this quarter, non-GAAP EPS is expected to
be in the range of $1.55 to a $1.58 based on a weighted average diluted
share count of approximately a 101-203 million shares. For fiscal year
'22, we expect billings to be in the range of $6.6-$6.65 billion, an
increase of 21 to 22% revenue is expected to be in the range of 5.275
to 5.3 to $5 billion, an increase of 24% to 25%.
We expect next-generation security ARR to be $1.65 billion to $1.7
billion, an increase of 40% to 44%. We expect product revenue growth
percent to be in the mid-single-digit to high single-digit range
year-over-year. We expect operating margins to be in the range of
18.5%-19%. Our Non-GAAP EPS is expected to be in the range of 715,
07-25, based on a weighted average diluted count of approximately 104
to 106 million shares. Adjusted free cash flow margin is expected to be
greater than 30%. And we will report RPO and recommend this as an
attractive metric as it captures the full value of our contractual
arrangements and is a good indicator of future revenue. Additionally,
please consider the following additional modeling points.
As I mentioned earlier, we hired aggressively in the second half in
fiscal year 21, supported by confidence in our fiscal year 22 outlook
for revenue and billings growth, with expenses from this investment
flowing into the first half of fiscal year '22, and some return of
COVID expenses, we expect operating income will be shifted to the
second half of the year, in fiscal year 22, as compared to fiscal year
21. And we expect an approximate 43% to 57% first half, the second half
splits during the fiscal year '22. We expect our non-GAAP tax rates to
remain at 22% for Q1 and fiscal year '22, subject to the outcome of
future tax legislation, we expect net interest and other expenses of $4
million to $5 million per quarter. We expect fiscal year 22 diluted
shares outstanding of 104 to 106 million shares.
And for Q1 we expect capital expenditures of $35 million to $40
million. For the fiscal year. Which we expect capital expenditures of
4205--$215 million, which includes approximately $40 million related to
our Santa Clara headquarters. Finally, I would like to invite you to
join us for our virtual Analyst Day on September 13th when Nikesh,
myself, and others from our team will provide an update on our Company
and product strategy, financial outlook, and ESG plans. In closing, we
are entering fiscal year '22 with strong momentum. We're pleased with
our operational execution and organic growth prospects as drivers of
continued momentum. With that, I will turn the call back over to Clay
for the Q&A portion of the call.
Question-and-Answer Session
A - Clay Bilby
Thank you, Dipak. To allow for broad participation, I would ask that
each person ask only one question. The first question will be from
Saket Kalia of Barclays with Keith Weiss of Morgan Stanley to follow.
Saket, you may ask your question.
Saket Kalia
Okay. Great. Thank you, Clay. Thanks for taking my question here.
Nikesh, maybe for you lots of good stuff to hit on in the quarter. But
maybe I'll just focus on next year's billings guide to start. Is great
to see, I think the guide of 21% to 22% billings growth next year.
That's better than where you started fiscal '21 in terms of billings
growth expectations. And of course, subsequently beat, can you just
talk about what's going into that higher starting point for fiscal '22.
And maybe as part of that, how you're thinking about overall security
spending in the areas that Palo Alto [Indiscernible]? Thanks.
Nikesh Arora
Saket, thanks for your question. As you know, when we went into FY `21,
we're all looking at what's happening with the pandemic and we're
trying to figure out how the pandemic was going to impact security
Spend. how the pandemic was going to impact our customers coming back
to work. What we realized in the course of the last year, that business
must continue and, in that context, customers have come back and
realized this way of working is fine.
Not only we're working in terms of creating productivity and delivering
their services, but also this way of working in terms of upgrading
their IT infrastructure and, of course, staying ahead of the cyber
security threat landscape.
So, in that context, we have a little more confidence going in this
year where we believe the customer is going to go, of course, the
pandemic hopefully will ease itself out over the course of the next few
quarters.
But in the context, we feel a little more confident, therefore we've
been able to understand what we can do as a business and share the
guidance with you. In terms of cyber security spend as I said, the
volumes of technology consumption have gone up in the pandemic no
doubt.
I don't think this is a one-time blip that's kind of normal, I think
this is a new normal. And that new normal needs to be protected, and to
be able to protect it effectively, you are seeing customers are looking
at consolidation strategies.
I shared with you the 3 platform purchases, the 2 platform purchases.
In my 3 years at Palo Alto, and finally, I'm finally seeing customers
wanting to consolidate and not deal with fragmentation, they're
realizing this is a losing battle.
If you want to take point sliver products, and trying to integrate them
yourselves. Now, that's our bet, has always been our bet, but it's not
a bet which is contingent on us having a platform you have to buy it
all. It's contingent on us being able to deliver best-of-breed
capabilities and as I shared, we've gone from two to six, hopefully
from six to double-digit this year, which means we actually deliver
best-of-breed capability to our customers, even with the
[Indiscernible]. So that's what gives us the confidence, Saket.
Saket Kalia
Thanks very much.
Clay Bilby
And our next question comes from Keith Weiss of Morgan Stanley, with
Rob Owens after that. Keith Weiss, you may ask your question.
Keith Weiss
Excellent. Thank you, guys, for taking the question, and a very nice
quarter. I think this quarter score is probably going to surprise a lot
of guys in terms of the level of overall strength you saw in billings
on next-gen doing really well, operating margins outperforming, the
guide for operating margins outperforming. But probably the biggest
area of contention coming into the print was product revenues. There's
a lot of worry about supply chain issues and supply chain constraints.
Doesn't really seem like that impacted you. You talked a little bit
about product revenues heading into FY '22. Does this account for any
the guide -- does it account for any supply chain issues on a
go-forward basis.
And this new level of for FY `22 up to mid to high single-digit growth,
is that durable beyond FY `22 or is this a period of catch-up spend
with that that pent-up demand around hardware you're talking about
previously? Thank you.
Nikesh Arora
So, Keith, thanks a lot for your question. I also want to thank you for
the balanced note, I thought you had a good assessment of our
opportunities and challenges going as a quarter. Like you said, we are
seeing the pent-up demand get released. We are seeing some impact of
refreshes.
We are seeing some impact of some of the new form factors we've
launched. We are working diligently, as I'm sure everyone is, with our
suppliers to make sure that we're able to bridge the supply and demand
gap. So far, we've been able to make it through Q4. Based on current
visibility, we don't see challenges for Q1 going into it, which is why
we've given you a guide for Q1 and we will keep working with our
suppliers.
I think the supply chain issue is going to mitigate itself in Q3 or Q4
time-frame, anyway, in the industry. When there is a supply issue, a
lot of the manufacturers, a lot of chip companies is actually working
twice as hard to try and bridge the gaps. And we're also working hard
with them to make sure we're very transparent about our needs in the
quarter.
So far, we have guided with the anticipation that we will be able to
keep managing our supply chain balance the way we have been able to
manage for Q4. And in terms of your sustainability, I would welcome you
to the Analyst Day on September 13th, and we'll talk more about it
then.
Keith Weiss
Excellent. Sounds great, guys. Thank you.
Clay Bilby
The next question comes from Rob Owens of Piper Sandler with Brian
Essex to follow. Rob, you may ask your question.
Rob Owens
Great and thank you for taking my question. You talked a little bit in
the prepared remarks about your success in the XDR segment, I was
wondering given all the noise in that segment, Nikesh if you could
unpack a little bit, where the competitive landscape is, and why Palo
Alto is winning at this point. Thanks.
Nikesh Arora
Thanks, Rob. Look, XDR is a competitive space, is to new transform
endpoint space which has a lot of players. And there were some legacy
players in that space who lost ground to some of the newer players in
the space, and we all know who they are, and Palo Alto came out of with
a product, which was highly technically capable and competitive as
we've shared with you, we have won various benchmarks in the industry
versus other players in the space.
So, we are seeing dog fights or catfights or whatever the right analogy
is in the customer space where we get in contention with a competitor.
And it gets competitive and it becomes a question of, can you deliver
the XDR capability we want? But I think over time what's happening is
that customers are looking at it as a more expansive approach.
I think this is not just about EdR part, the endpoint part, it also
needs to look at how do you [combing lateral](ph) network traffic
analysis, how you put, take that together, and minimize the number of
alerts that you're getting from different parts of the infrastructure.
As we just announced this morning, we've integrated Cloud capability in
there, so now you can take a look at your cloud estate and take the
alerts from the Cloud estate combing coming a lot of their endpoint,
combing a lot of their NTA and trying to see how do you minimize the
alert and how do you see a correlation amongst all those alerts, not
just that, we introduced identity analytics this morning too.
So, I think over time, the XDR category is hurtling towards what used
to be the SIM. And what's going to happen over time is XDR will engulf
that space, but with a much more intelligent, normalized point of view
where you can actually look at and say, this is valuable to me.
The SIM of the past was a data aggregation exercise and the
intelligence was left for the customer to determine. I think XDR is
bringing that next-generation capability to the SIM where it's
cross-correlating prior to that, reducing your noise, giving you more
relevant information. That's what's going to be the future. So that's
why XDR, whilst competitive, highly strategic, and it's it behooves us
because we have multiple pieces of the puzzle where we actually have
Cloud security capabilities. We have firewall capability, not just on
hardware, but across our virtual form factors. So being able to bring
all that data makes sense of it and provide value to the SoC is where I
think XDR is going. I think we're well placed in that space.
Rob Owens
Great. Thank you very much.
Clay Bilby
Our next question comes from Brian Essex of Goldman Sachs with Michael
Turits next. Brian, you may ask your question.
Brian Essex
Great. Thank you for taking the question, and congrats on the results
Nikesh. One quick question on the ClaiSec business. Wanted to
understand -- I guess maybe on next NGS overall, confidence in the
guidance, how much cushion is in that number.
I understand it's nice to see you leaning into ClaiSec with investment.
Where are you investing for growth, particularly in sales and
marketing? And maybe to cap it off management changes that we saw this
quarter, particularly inviting BJ to join the Company. How that plays
into the investment in ClaiSec as that remains a meaningful opportunity
for you.
Nikesh Arora
Thanks Brian, you know, as we went on the speedboat strategy, our first
job was to make sure that we had product-market fit. And in the early
part of our strategy, we shared that we began to see product-market
fit, which really, I think Q4 2019 was when we started to see traction
in the space.
We spent the majority of the last 18 months after that trying to make
sure that our sellers were able to understand the power of all the
capabilities that Palo Alto has to offer. And we have some phenomenal
results in terms of what percent of our core sales team can sell
Cortex, can sell Prisma, and those numbers keep rising because we're
trying to make sure that our sales team is able to go pitch the entire
portfolio to our customers.
And that's exactly why we had the success we have been able to share
with you, in terms of customers buying three platforms, two platforms,
or one, and we believe that opportunities are still further ahead in
terms of us being able to penetrate our entire customer base with our
Cloud capabilities, our SASE capabilities, our Cortex capabilities.
So, we think there's more room to go. We are investing in more coverage
and more capability, both in the U.S. and North America, as well as in
international markets. That's one part of it. In terms of the
management change, delighted that BJ Jenkins has joined us at Palo Alto
Networks.
He was the CEO of Barracuda Networks. He understands security really
well. He's a very seasoned phenomenal sales leader and also a great
human being. He's going to come manage our teams, drive that growth
continually further.
I also shared with you that part of our success as a company is being
driven by very large deals. If you want to be the platform provider of
choice, we have to be able to engage at the highest level for
customer's organizations and convince them of our not just portfolio
approach, but its best of breed capabilities.
Amit is going to continue to do that. He is working closely with BJ and
Rick Congdon, our Head of Global Sales, and they're going to partner
together and try and address the needs of the customers from the
top-down, which allows us more bandwidth, more capability, and more
management strength in being able to do that.
So, the sole part of the plan is to create an ability to go target
customers at the highest levels. Trying to create large deals where
they see a long-term transformation and be their cybersecurity partner
of choice.
Brian Essex
Great. Helpful color. Thank you.
Clay Bilby
The next question comes from Michael Turits of KeyBanc with Jonathan Ho
next.
Michael Turits
Congrats on the quarter. On both XDR and on Cortex and on Prisma Cloud.
I think the impression a lot of us got last quarter was their
competition was very tight, there was, I'm guessing you never got
significant incremental investment there that was needed.
It sounds like those segments did well. And you know, you've guided
moderately in terms of margins for next year, but it doesn't seem like
any big shifts. So, are things moving better than you expected or is
your funding a more streamlined rate of repurchases?
Nikesh Arora
Michael, I'll give you a quick sense of how things are going to have
the lead jump in and give you a sense of the capability we built this
year and the capability you're planning to build over the next 12
months. There's a sales part of the go-to-market part of it, which is
working as I said, and our top-three customers committed over $40
million in public cloud spend.
I think many of the investors who have invested in these new startups
and cloud security, that earlier [Indiscernible] not what we got from
our top-tier customers. So, I think we are seeing traction in the
market.
We are seeing residents and product-market fit, but it's not a static
market. That market is continually evolving. We've gone from 07
modules. There's a lot more capability that people are looking for.
Same time next year, I'm going to have Lee jump in and share some of
the trends and where we are investing in next year.
Lee Klarich
Yes, absolutely. Look over the last 12 months we've made tremendous
amounts of progress in both these products and you look at Prisma Cloud
about halfway through the year we introduced four new modules, three of
which have been built internally by the teams and one was the
[Indiscernible] acquisition being integrated for micro-segmentation.
We've seen a lot of very good early customer adoption of those and
going forward, I anticipate we're going to start to see mainstream
adoption across the installed base and new customers as well. Rich
Crews(ph) is doing nicely, as well with customers as they look more
towards shift left and in the not-too-distant future, we will have that
come out as an integrated module of Prisma Cloud.
Again, allowing us to more easily bring that to our existing installed
base. XDR, [Indiscernible] with the announcement this morning with
[Indiscernible], I think it just shows the continued innovation -- a
pace of innovation that we are able to drive.
Extending it to Cloud, extending it to identity analytics, introducing
the new [Indiscernible] module, and a whole host of other capabilities
as well. And as Nikesh already alluded, you're seeing us start to
extend the analytics, as well as the data aggregation layer to
additional data sources and additional intelligence.
Clay Bilby
Our next question comes from Jonathan Ho with William Blair, with Brent
Thil up next. Jonathan, please ask your question.
Jonathan Ho
Excellent, thank you. I just wanted to go back to your comments around
2022 to give potentially as maybe a digestion year in terms of M and A.
We think about sort of the further leverage in terms of the acquisition
plays you've already made. Is it accurate to think 2022 as the
[Indiscernible] Thank you?
Nikesh Arora
Well, Well, Jonathan. We digest as we eat. We took the 11 product
capabilities, and if you look at our NGS revenue or NGS billings, a lot
of their NGS billing is from a majority of acquisitions that we
integrated into our platform. So, it's not like we have undigested
parts of our acquisitions.
There are parts of our acquisitions where we'd like to see more
traction on a pretty more wood behind the arrows. But for the most
part, I think the way to interpret it, Jonathan, is that when we --
when I walked in 3 years ago, there were many trends in the
Cybersecurity industry where we were not a player.
We were not a player in SASE. We were not a player in cloud security.
We're not a full player in the XDR space, and the [Indiscernible]. We
needed to become a player, and the cost and time required to build
capability will take us four to five years.
That is where being able to look at the market's [Indiscernible] by the
best in the market, which has already steamed -- which she already
spent four to five years, and shown product-market fit was the right
approach.
Today, we have to be very careful as we evaluate companies because
pretty much in categories where we think there are relevant trends, we
already have a product. So, acquiring anything that space would require
us to spend a lot more time integrating, figuring out what to do their
customers.
We have 2 competing products and I principally do not believe and
having two products in the same category because creates confusion,
destroys the strategy, increased -- lots of unnecessary gross profit in
the organization. So that's why our opportunities to go expand in
categories are limited.
We've decided at some places we want to play and we want to play to
win, there are some places we're not going to play we don't want to
play an identity. So, it doesn't matter if there is an open space and
there are Companies out there.
We're not playing there, we're playing in Cloud Security where we will
be very aggressive, we're playing in automating assault providing
capabilities on the SoC and replaying a network firewall business.
And there we believe we have huge complemented capabilities. And as you
saw from the slide, we're building lots of lots of organic capability.
We did 53 product releases last three years, are all showing up.
Hopefully in the billings that you're seeing that we're able to provide
more capabilities, more subscriptions to customers.
That's the way I would interpret the M&A answer, and does it mean we
might tuck in a product Company here or there? Yes. But it also means
that we're not looking for substantive acquisitions at this current
point in time.
Jonathan Ho
Excellent. Thank you.
Clay Bilby
Our next question comes from Brent Thill of Jefferies with
[Indiscernible] after that.t Brent, you may proceed Nikesh, you
mentioned that the sassy train has barely left the station. I'm curious
if you can just elaborate on that comment and talk through kind of the
next couple stations that you expect to land in with this train.
Nikesh Arora
Thank you, Brian. Look, if you -- I think the pandemic is partly to
--[Indiscernible] more give credit to the fact that the SASE train is
moving fast. Over the last 2 years, what you've seen as customers go
commit to a large Cloud purchase to get involved in the development
process of the Cloud purchase. And then they start to move their
workloads to the Cloud.
As we begin to that, there are years of MPLS of datacenter spend, which
is going on. Our customers realized I don't need to bring all that
traffic back home. I need to start taking the traffic and have it gone
where the data is, whether it's in the public cloud or my data center
on those kinds of traffic routing splitting capabilities require you to
have pushed that route into the edge, put SD lan under.
That also requires you to have security at the edge. Now, the majority
of our customers who have security in the data center with our
firewalls can easily take that capability, push it to the edge to the
Palo Alto capability or Prisma Access without having to change their
policy infrastructure allows them to be consistent across all form
factors, all applications, all devices, which is actually through
[Indiscernible].
And if you saw your leader in the [Indiscernible] by pretty much
everybody else -- everyone else in the industry is behind. So, from
that context, to deliver true [Indiscernible] with the sassy solution,
we think we've reached a great position.
We've also aggressively supplemented that with software capabilities.
And I'm pretty sure every Company out there in the Fortune 500 and
Fortune 100, they're all going through their journey as we speak, I
don't think their market is saturated by any means, shape, or form. And
is not just a security play.
Actually, is a fundamental network play. People are shifting their
traffic, taking away from the MPLS world to the more Cloud delivered
security in the Cloud delivered Network World for GCP, AWS, Azure,
others are providing the underlying network capability in addition to
our security capability.
Clay Bilby
Our next question comes from Gray Powell of BTIG with Matthew Hedberg
up next.
Gray Powell
Congratulations on the good results and thanks for taking the question.
So, my side, I mean, we've heard that Palo Alto's implemented some
price increases on the appliance side of the business. Can you just
talk about what you're doing there and is that correct? How widespread
are the price increases and does that have any sort of pull-through on
cash subscriptions and support?
Nikesh Arora
So Gray, what has happened is with the supply chain initiatives that we
saw in the industry, we've seen pretty much every player in the
industry tweak their pricing for the upcoming year. And we've done
something similar.
It's in the low single-digits from a price increase perspective, as you
know, the net yield is contingent on a competitive situation. What the
customer pays, what discounts have been negotiated with them.
So usually, typically you don't see the yield fully dropped to UPMLl.
It will have some pull-through to our numbers as in when those price
changes are affected in the field. But it's low-single-digits, it's
just consistent with supply chain issues that the industry is seeing.
Gray Powell
Understood. That's really helpful. Thank you.
Clay Bilby
And our next question comes from Matthew Hedberg of RBC, with Joel
Fishbein next. Matthew, please proceed.
Matthew Hedberg
Hey guys, thanks for taking my question. Hey, Nikesh congrats on the
quarter. You started off the call talking about all the cyber threats
these days, all the cyber risks, I was curious from your perspective,
as we head into the U.S. federal budget season, yeah, how do you think
about that impacting your business? Is it this year thing, is it more
so next year? Just kind of wondering about the cadence of federal cyber
funding.
Nikesh Arora
Well, as you know, the federal year-end is September. So, I think it's
too late for them to have any material impact this fiscal year. I think
they're busy trying to the new government in place with changing a lot
of people and administration that they usually take, it takes in the
first year of administration, takes a few weeks, months to work through
those changes.
So, I think we're going to see stuff happen in the next fiscal year for
the government. They have great intentions. They want to make sure that
the Cybersecurity posture of the country, of infrastructure, is
improved.
You've seen some executive orders in that regard. There is a very
positive mindset in terms of leaning in and solving many of these
problems. I'm hoping that may lead to a positive impact on the
Cybersecurity industry.
Clay Bilby
Our next question comes from Joel Fishbein of trust securities with
Keith Bachman up next. Joel, you may proceed.
Joel Fishbein
Thanks, [Indiscernible]. Just wanted to follow up on one of the themes
that you talked about during the call, and that is vendor consolidation
is something that we've been looking for a long time. What do you think
the catalyst is there for that, and how are you positioned? Considering
identity and endpoint are part of that -- those 2 markets.
Nikesh Arora
So, Joel, I think to look, my personal view, and I'm new to the
industry even though have been here for three years, is I don't think
there are many options in the industry to consolidate Cybersecurity
spend. I think there were some phenomenal players in the market who had
the amazing capability in their link, in there, swim lane.
What we've done in the last few years is build multiple swim lanes
where you can buy the product in the news that strongly, or you can buy
a product that connects across those simulates. And that's what we're
proving with our Prisma Cloud, with our SASE strategy, and our firewall
strategy.
We're adding more software capabilities. So, I'm going to tell you
about my book. I think we're well-positioned for the consolidation
around a minute majority of our platforms, at the same time, you don't
have to buy it all from us if you don't want to, we're still integrated
with other players in the market.
If your infrastructure is so designed or you actually have
infrastructure players that you're deployed. In terms of correlating
that to identity and endpoint well, we are an endpoint, XDR is the new
endpoint play, where we do both EDR capabilities and XDR capabilities.
So, as you see, the transformation of relief from the traditional
endpoint vendors to the XDR vendors, we have a play there. In terms of
identity, I think the identity market will exist. I think there are
players in the market.
But remember, identity is about two factual authentications and
validating who you are once you're in the network, when you get past
the initial identity checks here back in our network flow, you're back
in our firewall.
So back in our Cloud instances. So, we do participate, really
participate after being validated at the point at which we can get that
information to integrate with existing identity players in the market.
I don't know if the investors want me to go buy a [Indiscernible]
player and make it better because there are some [Indiscernible]
players in the market.
Joel Fishbein
Thank you.
Clay Bilby
And our next question is from Keith Bachman, of BMO with Bollin next.
Keith, you may proceed.
Keith Bachman
Thank you very much. Nikesh, I wanted to flush out a little bit on the
consolidation fee, but in a different direction, if you could just talk
about your SASE wins. And are there some common themes within the SASE
when the SASE wins, where are you winning and why?
And perhaps on the other side where you not winning and trying to
understand as part of that theme is how are you winning within SASE,
within your installed SASE, versus perhaps even. getting into some new
customers that might turn into something more for Palo Alto. But if you
could just talk about some common threads within your SASE environment?
Nikesh Arora
Keith, I'm going to lean on Lee to tell you about why we win, where we
win. But as I said I'm prepared remarks, 25% of our Prisma Access
customers are net new to Palo Alto. And this would typically be a
customer who's got to apply deployed firewall which cannot give that
extended sassy firewall Capex thing capabilities that liked to
eventually replace those firewalls.
but then midlife, those firewalls, they would go with us on sassy, with
us -- at least the hope and anticipation that we can go back and
reverse into that with our hardware overtime as those firewalls from
the competitors come to end-of-life. Lee, you want to jump in?
Lee Klarich
Yeah, I think the -- there's been a significant change in the market in
terms of what customers realize they need from sort of thinking about
users, employees that are off the network and sort of being like a nice
to have, like maybe I can conduct into some sort of subset of
applications, some of the time and that will be acceptable to the new
realities of the hybrid workforce, where it's very clear that employees
need to be able to access all applications, all of the time.
And for the enterprise, there needs to be a full security stack to
protect those connectivity's. And that shift really favors our position
with present SASE, our ability to secure all applications, our ability
to provide true enterprise tested enterprise-grade security and to do
it in a way that is consistent with what many of our customers already
have deployed for our campus environments, branch-office environments,
et cetera.
And as Nikesh mentioned that that trend can come from two different
directions. It can come from our existing customers who are really
happy with us and his extending out to SASE or vice versa, customers
that come in with SASE and then can extend into the campus and branch
office environments.
Clay Bilby
And our next question, our last question for today comes from Ben
Bollin of Cleveland Research. Ben, you may ask your question.
Ben Bollin
Evening, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. When you look at
recent performance and even the forward outlook, how do you think about
your share performance? Your share gains versus wallet share expansion
within your customers. And then Nikesh, you talked a little bit about
maybe within the networking, but what are IT silos do you feel like are
donating spend into security as a whole? Thank you.
Nikesh Arora
Thanks, Ben. You saw we had highlighted one of our customers became our
first customers spend a $100 in the air with us. And we have a few who
were just short of that. So, it wasn't the only one who was getting
there.
So, I think part of that gives you a sense of consolidation of spend
and us getting a higher share of wallet. But I'd like to see it as us
[Indiscernible] providing the capabilities to our customers. Are they
able to do everything with us, they don't have to go and go stitch
together multiple vendors because today there is a very high cost of
stitching security because the cost is our ability?
And we're doing all the stitching for our customers, at least giving
them the ability, they can go secure the enterprise and go do other
stuff in terms of your question about where different parts of idea
you're probably contributing, I think there is a large network
contribution around the whole sassy topic because that's it
effectively, not just a security plate also happens to be a network
plate.
And that's where you'll see and you'll find, many times that our
firewalls are procured either by the network team or the security team.
So, you'll see that the whole network security space, there is a back
and forth between whether it comes on the network budget or the
security budget.
I think the same thing in the Cloud, people haven't quite figured out
that the Cloud requires its own capability from a security perspective.
And we're seeing that being baked into the budget. But very often that
capability is coming out of Cloud spend where we're also able to go get
credits from the public Cloud CSPM to have the customer pay for that
given that answers the question.
Clay Bilby
And with that, we will conclude the Q and A portion of our call today.
I will now turn it back over to Nikesh for his closing remarks.
Nikesh Arora
Well, I just want to say thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We
look forward to seeing you at our upcoming investor events, and
especially our Analyst Day. And I do want to take a moment to say thank
you Thank you. Thank you to our employees, our partners, our customers,
and everyone who made these results possible. [Indiscernible] have a
great day.
