Palo Alto Networks (TICKER: PANW) Palo Alto Networks Inc Panw Ceo Nikesh Arora On Q3 2022 Results Earnings Call Transcript
Palo Alto Networks, Inc. (NASDAQ:PANW) Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call
May 19, 2022 4:30 PM ET
Company Participants
Clay Bilby - Investor Relations
Nikesh Arora - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Dipak Golechha - Chief Financial Officer
Lee Klarich - Chief Product Officer
Conference Call Participants
Phil Winslow - Credit Suisse
Hamza Fodderwala - Morgan Stanley
Fatima Boolani - Citigroup
Brian Essex - Goldman Sachs
Gray Powell - BTIG
Saket Kalia - Barclays
Michael Turits - KeyBanc
Roger Boyd - UBS
Andy Nowinski - Wells Fargo
Rob Owens - Piper Sandler
Jonathan Ho - William Blair
Matt Hedberg - RBC
Ben Bollin - Cleveland Research
Adam Tindle - Raymond James
Brent Thill - Jefferies
Clay Bilby
Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Palo Alto Networks Fiscal Third
Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. I am Clay Bilby, Head of Palo
Alto Networks Investor Relations. Please note that this call is being
recorded today, Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 1:30 p.m. Pacific Time.
With me on today's call are Nikesh Arora, our Chairman and Chief
Executive Officer; and Dipak Golechha, our Chief Financial Officer. Our
Chief Product Officer, Lee Klarich, will join us in the Q&A session
following the prepared remarks. You can find the press release and
information to supplement today's discussion on our website at
investors.paloaltonetworks.com. While there, please click on the link
for Events & Presentations where you'll find the investor presentation
and supplemental information.
In the course of today's conference call, we will make forward-looking
statements and projections that involve risk and uncertainty that could
cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking
statements made in this presentation. These forward-looking statements
are based on our current beliefs and information available to
management as of today. Risks, uncertainties and other factors that
could cause actual results to differ are identified in the safe harbor
statements provided in our earnings release and presentation and in our
SEC filings. Palo Alto Networks assumes no obligation to update the
information provided as part of today's presentation.
We will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP
financial measures are not prepared in accordance with GAAP and should
not be considered as a substitute for or superior to measures of
financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. We have
included tables which provide reconciliations between the non-GAAP and
GAAP financial measures in the appendix to the presentation and in our
earnings release, which we have filed with the SEC and can also be
found in the Investors section of our website. Please note that all
comparisons are on a year-over basis unless specifically noted
otherwise.
We would also like to note, management is scheduled to participate in
the upcoming JPMorgan, Jefferies and Bank of America investor
conferences in the next several weeks. I will now turn the call over to
Nikesh.
Nikesh Arora
Thank you, Clay. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us
today for our earnings call.
In this time of increased macroeconomic volatility and geopolitical
uncertainty, we saw a combination of strong cybersecurity market demand
and our team's execution in line with our strategy to drive our Q3
financial results. We reported strong top line metrics with both
billings and RPO growing 40% year-over-year. This is the highest
billings growth we have reported looking back over the past 4 years and
was driven both by strong demand for our next-generation security
offerings and strong customer commitments to our network security
business.
In network security, we saw product again grow over 20% as we continue
the transition to software. Customers continue to consolidate their
network security to Palo Alto Networks as a result of the significant
expansion in our subscription capabilities over the last several years.
Our net security ARR ended Q3 at $1.61 billion, up 65% year-over-year.
Our top line performance translated into non-GAAP operating income that
grew ahead of revenue and enabled strong cash flow conversion. We were
pleased that we were able to achieve these bottom line results despite
challenges in the supply chain.
Speaking of the global backdrop, whether it's supply chain,
geopolitical conflict or rising interest rates and inflation, this
environment is creating challenges for our customers and testing our
execution. I'm pleased our teams have risen to the occasion and have
shown strong execution across sales, operations and all areas that
support the business. The trend that started with the pandemic and the
widespread cyberattacks, the trend of network transformation, cloud
transformation and fortifying one's infrastructure continue to be
strong. Coupled with consolidation in cybersecurity, we expect this to
continue to drive strength and growth both for the industry and us in
particular given our unique 3-platform approach.
Of course, the events of Ukraine are on everyone's mind. We stand with
the people of Ukraine against Russian aggression and have been working
to provide direct cybersecurity support to Ukrainian organizations.
This geography has not been significant for us in terms of revenue or
our overall growth expectations. For this quarter and our most recent
quarters, our combined Russia and Ukraine revenue was well below 1%. We
have halted new sales in Russia and we're also complying with all
government sanctions.
Since December, we've deployed protection for over 3,400 new indicators
of attack that defend organizations from disruptive and destructive
Russian cyberattacks. As you might expect, we're seeing heightened
interest from commercial and government customers in Europe around
mitigating this nation-state activity. This ever-challenging threat
landscape is driving broader and more strategic customer conversations.
We continue to see our customers look for an elevated level of
partnership and this is expanding our market opportunity.
We continue to see success in consolidating share within the enterprise
market, and this has become a core tenet of our growth strategy. We see
evidence of this in our multi-platform sales with 48% of our Global
2000 customers having transacted now with us on all 3 of our major
platforms of Strata, Prisma and Cortex. The number of
million-dollar-deal transactions we signed was up 65% in Q3 and the
average size of our million-dollar deals increased in the quarter. We
also saw the number of $5 million deals increase by 73% year-over-year.
Large deals are an important selling motion for us as we further
penetrate Global 2000 customers with our second and third platforms.
Innovation is the engine that underpins our growth in the market, which
Gartner estimates will total over $250 billion in end-user spending by
2026. With the trend towards vendor consolidation in the market,
customers appreciate our best-of-breed capabilities within each of our
3 platforms. This quarter, we added 4 additional categories to the
recognition we received for our best-of-breed capabilities. Remember,
they're all integrated into our 3 platforms. So the customer gets the
benefit of our platforms as well as the individual best-of-breed
capabilities which compete effectively against independent vendors in
our industry.
Forrester recognized our position in cloud workload security with a
leader designation in their inaugural wave in this market, the only
company to have that recognition. Early recognition of the importance
of attack surface management, which we entered through the acquisition
of Xpanse in 2020 was validated as we were recognized as an
outperforming leader by GigaOm. We received strong performer
designations from Forrester in 2 categories, incident response and EDR.
I'll next provide you an update on our platforms and what progress
we've made in the last quarter, starting with Prisma Cloud. We continue
to see strong momentum driven by both new customers and notable for
this quarter, large upsell and expansion commitments, which drove 25
deals north of $1 million. This growth in customers and existing
customer expansion is evidenced in our credit consumption, which grew
50% year-over-year in Q3. We continue to drive cloud security
leadership across the industry. And as I've said before, all Prisma
Cloud customers are inherently customers of hyperscalers, yet they
choose us. Customers are looking for a scaled, integrated cloud
security platform that Prisma Cloud provides, enabling us to deliver
high double-digit growth.
Our customers are increasingly recognizing that operating securely in
the cloud means ensuring that software that is written for the cloud is
secure. This starts with the developer. Our early observation of this
trend led us to acquire Bridgecrew in early 2021. We have been focused
on building out a portfolio of offerings targeted at developers. This
is our fifth pillar of Prisma Cloud. Cloud Code leverages all the
existing capabilities of Prisma Cloud, including its approach to credit
consumption, deployment and reporting. One quarter from release, we've
seen success in 6-figure commitments to Prisma Cloud driven by Cloud
Code and also this is amongst the fastest modules adopted in Prisma
Cloud in terms of credit consumption. Critical to our developer
strategy, we continue to see strong downloads of our Checkov open
source offering, which reached over 7 million in Q3.
Moving on to Cortex. We are helping customers reimagine how they
operate their security operation centers with automation and AI/ML at
the core. Cortex customers grew over 60% in Q3, supported by
multiproduct Cortex transactions in EMEA and the Americas. We achieved
an important milestone in Q3 with approximately $500 million in Cortex
ARR. In Q3, we saw strength in each of our established Cortex product
areas with a record number of transactions for XDR and Xpanse and
nearly that level of business with XSOAR. XDR continues to shine with
industry awards and benchmarks. This quarter, XDR was recognized for
100% threat prevention and detection in the recent MITRE evaluation.
Forrester also recognized the significant progress we have made with
XDR in our series of releases over the last 9 months, recognizing XDR
as a strong performer in its EDR Wave.
Our Xpanse performance, with transactions up well over 100% in the last
12 months, shows that attack surface management is now seeing an
inflection in mainstream demand. After our recent limited releases of
XSIAM, we are making progress in our goal to initiate co-design work
with 10 partners and expect to be on track at the end of this quarter
with our plans. XSIAM will ultimately enable us to achieve our Cortex
vision around SOC automation, delivering what we expect to be a very
unique value to our customers and disrupting the multibillion-dollar
SIEM category by offering a modern alternative that leverages AI and
ML.
Moving on to SASE. Last week, we made a call to the industry to adopt
ZTNA 2.0, which ushers in a new era of hybrid workforce security based
on key zero trust principles like least privilege access, continuous
trust verification and continuous security inspection across all apps.
Our mantra for Prisma Access is to provide zero trust with zero
exceptions. The pandemic has accelerated the adoption of SASE. In
addition to significant traction from our installed base, we continue
to see strong momentum from net new customers for whom Prisma SASE is
their first significant purchase for us. These customers then become
opportunities for incremental engagements across our other platforms.
SASE saw particular success with large transaction in Europe as we
signed 11 large transactions in EMEA, further reinforcing the global
nature of SASE demand. SASE is in the early innings, and we're making
significant investments to ensure we continue our momentum in this
category.
Moving on to Strata, our hardware and subscription services platform.
For the third consecutive quarter, we delivered north of 20% product
revenue growth. We saw strength across our portfolio, both hardware
appliances and software form factors. As you're all aware, the industry
is dealing with unprecedented supply chain issues, which are likely to
persist for yet another year. Our team is deftly managing these with
our partners, allowing us to maintain better lead times than some in
the industry. We have seen instances where we are advantaged in having
supply where competitors cannot timely deliver and we believe this has
helped contribute to market share gains.
We saw our momentum validated by third-party recognition of market
share gains in both hardware and VM form factors. In hardware, Omdia
recognized Palo Alto Networks as being #1 in market share for the
appliance market with over 27% share, up more than 5 points
year-over-year. In the VM market, according to Dell'Oro, we added 6
points of market share year-over-year and command nearly 34% of the
market.
We continue to execute on our Generation 3 to Generation 4 transition.
We have now released nearly all Gen 4 appliance models. Although
customers are very early in their evaluation and adoption of Gen 4, we
expect this Gen 4 adoption will help drive our appliance growth rates
ahead of the market growth rate. We're seeing strong uptake of advanced
URL subscriptions and strong early demand for our new advanced threat
prevention subscription. We released next-generation CASB last quarter
and saw solid Q3 performance here.
Lastly, we announced our second partnership with a hyperscaler to embed
our network security into the fabric of their cloud. This is
differentiated innovation that leverages our engineering scale, our
market leadership position and relationships with hyperscalers. Cloud
Next-Generation Firewall on AWS brings the combination of Palo Alto
Networks' industry-leading network security in a cloud-native form
factor and marries it with the ease of use of Amazon Web Services. This
relationship with AWS follows the launch of Cloud IDS on the Google
Cloud Platform last July.
We expect Cloud Next-Generation Firewall will drive further growth of
our Firewall as a Platform and specifically, our software form factors.
It also gives customers another reason to standardize on our network
security platform. Innovations like Cloud Next-Generation Firewall on
AWS, Cloud IDS on Google Cloud and our licensing of security
subscriptions to SaaS providers to protect their cloud applications are
differentiators for us versus competitors that are primarily focused on
the appliance form factor.
Bringing it all together, we are very pleased with our Q3 results,
where we saw exceptional top line growth. At the same time, even while
growing faster, we are prioritizing investments and delivering on the
profitability targets we committed during our September 2021 Analyst
Day. We believe this is an important discipline, and we intend to
maintain this focus on profitability targets while maximizing growth.
We continue to see broadening demand for cybersecurity, which is
enabling us to grow and invest from a position of strength. As we focus
on our mission to be our customers' cybersecurity partner of choice for
today and tomorrow, we also aspire to deliver to our shareholders
outstanding returns as a proxy for growth of the cybersecurity
opportunity as well as world-class execution.
We are very pleased with the first 3 quarters we have delivered so far
in fiscal year 2022. We look forward to updating you in 3 months on our
plans to continue accelerated growth, balanced profitability and look
at how we intend to target GAAP profitability in the near future.
With that, I will pass the call over to Dipak to talk about our results
in more detail.
Dipak Golechha
Thank you, Nikesh, and good afternoon, everyone.
Our strong results continue to be driven by solid demand across the
breadth of our offerings with results again ahead of our guidance
across all metrics. In the midst of top line strength, we balance
profitability well. With the strength of this momentum and our
favorable outlook, we are again raising our full year guidance. For Q3,
revenue of $1.39 billion grew 29% and was above the high end of our
guidance range. Product grew 22% and total services grew by 32%. By
geography, growth was balanced across all theaters, with the Americas
growing 30%, EMEA up 28% and JAPAC growing by 29%.
NGS ARR grew 65% to $1.61 billion, supported by balanced strength
across this portfolio. As noted in our Q2 earnings, going forward, we
focus on NGS ARR as one of our core metrics as we believe it's
indicative of the return we're seeing on our growth investments and
also helps investors track the growing mix of this business within our
revenue. We saw strong double-digit growth across all of our major NGS
offerings with Prisma Cloud, Prisma SASE and Cortex as well as growing
contributions from recently introduced NGS offerings. We are pleased
with this diversified portfolio-driven growth. Overall, this
performance as well as the continued maturity of our go-to-market
organization in selling our NGS capabilities gives us confidence to
raise our annual guidance for NGS ARR again in Q3.
In the third quarter of 2022, we delivered total billings of $1.8
billion, up 40% and also above the high end of our guidance range.
Total deferred revenue in Q3 was $5.9 billion, an increase of 34%.
Remaining performance obligation, or RPO, was $6.9 billion, increasing
40% with current RPO representing a similar percentage of the total as
in recent quarters. Our teams executed very well again in Q3, and you
see the result of the strength in these top line metrics, which lead
revenue.
There were a few factors to call out that drove the strength that we
saw this quarter. In addition to the significant strength in our NGS
business, we saw strength in our attached subscriptions. We've seen
customers use their budget to make incremental commitments to our
attached subscriptions as they anticipate firewall upgrades and overall
network security capacity increases. As well, they're seeing the value
in newer subscriptions we have brought to the market over the last 12
to 18 months. This gives us further conviction around sustained demand
for appliances as well as our software-based FWaaP form factors as
customers look to benefit from our consistent architecture, including
the subscription capabilities.
Product revenue again was strong, growing 22% in Q3 with demand
exceeding our ability to ship due to supply chain challenges. We
estimate customers refresh their products every 4 to 7 years, with many
now evaluating our Gen 4 hardware. We're in the early days of this
refresh cycle with only a small proportion having updated their
products. As I noted earlier, we're seeing signs of customers making
commitments to our hardware platform, both based on strong subscription
demand and also the beginning of our installed base refresh activity.
Our Firewall as a Platform billings grew 25% on top of the accelerated
Q3 growth in the year ago period. We continue to see this performance
well balanced across our FWaaP form factors. Within our FWaaP
offerings, the strength of our product business held our Q3 software
mix at approximately 39%, in line with Q2 and the year ago quarter.
Turning to the details of our results. Product revenue was $352
million, growing 22%. Subscription revenue was $640 million, increasing
by 35%. Support revenue of $395 million increased 27%. In total,
subscription and support revenue of $1.04 billion increased 32% and
accounted for 75% of total revenue.
Non-GAAP gross margin of 72.9% was down 170 basis points. The driver
continues to be supply chain-related costs as we incurred additional
expense for components and shipping. Despite the pressure on our gross
margins, non-GAAP operating margin of 18.2% was up 120 basis points
year-over-year. We were able to offset higher supply chain costs with
lower operating expenses as we drove efficiencies across the business.
Non-GAAP net income for the third quarter grew 38% to $193 million or
$1.79 per diluted share. Our non-GAAP effective tax rate was 22%. GAAP
net losses were $73 million or $0.74 per basic and diluted share.
Turning now to the balance sheet and cash flow statement. We finished
April with cash equivalents and investments of $4.6 billion. Product
and associated subscription shipments shifted toward month 3, resulting
in days sales outstanding of 71 days. Cash flow from operations was
$390 million. We generated adjusted free cash flow of $351 million, a
margin of 25.3%.
With regard to capital allocation priorities, we did not repurchase
stock during Q3. However, we do expect share repurchase to be a major
use of cash flow as previously stated. We currently have approximately
$450 million remaining on our authorization for future share
repurchases. This current authorization expires on December 31, 2022.
On the M&A front, we did not close any acquisitions in Q3. Managing
stock-based compensation remains a management focus. This quarter, we
reduced SBC as a percentage of revenue by approximately 4 points
year-over-year and 2 points quarter-over-quarter. We will continue to
apply discipline to this process while balancing reductions against the
market dynamics for cybersecurity talent. Key to our ongoing success is
maintaining balanced top and bottom line growth while continuing to
acquire and retain top talent.
Lastly, moving to guidance and modeling points. As Nikesh highlighted,
we continue to see very balanced demand from customers across our
portfolio. This includes demand for our appliance form factors that
outstrips our ability to fulfill in the near term as well as strengthen
our next-generation security portfolio. Our Q4 guidance takes into
account the strong demand picture, the best information we have today
on supply chain and other factors. Recall that a year ago in the second
half of fiscal year '21, we were hiring aggressively. As we move beyond
that comparison, investors should be considering the comments we
provided around medium-term margin expansion goals.
Turning to our guidance for the fourth quarter of 2022. We expect
billings to be in the range of $2.32 billion to $2.35 billion, an
increase of 24% to 26%. We expect revenue to be in the range of $1.53
billion to $1.55 billion, an increase of 25% to 27%. We expect non-GAAP
EPS to be in the range of $2.26 to $2.29 based on a weighted average
diluted count of approximately 106 million to 108 million shares.
For fiscal year 2022, we expect billings to be in the range of $7.106
billion to $7.136 billion, an increase of 30% to 31%. We expect revenue
to be in the range of $5.48 billion to $5.50 billion, an increase of
approximately 29%. We expect next-generation security ARR to be $1.775
billion to $1.825 billion, an increase of 50% to 55% versus a very
strong performance in the fourth quarter of fiscal year '21. We expect
strength in product revenue to continue in Q4 with full year growth of
20%. We expect non-GAAP operating margin to be 18.5% to 19%. We expect
non-GAAP EPS to be in the range of $7.43 to $7.46 based on a weighted
average diluted count of approximately 106 million to 107 million
shares. We continue to expect an adjusted free cash flow margin for the
year of 32% to 33%.
Achieving the rule of 60 was an aspiration we called out in our
September 21 Analyst Day. The rule combines revenue growth and adjusted
free cash flow margin. Based on our Q4 guidance, we're pleased to
project that the combination will exceed 60% for fiscal year '22, which
is ahead of our prior stated plan. We've seen strong growth in fiscal
year '22. On a revenue basis, our guidance for the year is 3.6% higher
at the midpoint than where we started and 7.5% higher at the midpoint
for NGS ARR. Along with this top line, we've absorbed incremental
supply chain costs and are happy to be able to continue to project the
same operating profitability range as at the beginning of the year.
Additionally, please consider the following additional modeling points.
We expect non-GAAP tax rate to remain at 22% for Q4 and fiscal year
'22, subject to the outcome of future tax legislation. For Q4 '22, we
expect net interest and other expenses of $1 million to $2 million. We
expect capital expenditures in Q4 of $36 million to $41 million, and we
expect capital expenditures for the full fiscal year of $190 million to
$195 million, which includes $39 million outlaid in Q2 '22 related to
our Santa Clara headquarters.
Stepping back, we're focused on balancing our drivers of total
shareholder return. We're recognizing not only the importance of top
line growth as we focus on executing strong market demand, but also
profitability, cash conversion and our capital structure. Balancing
profitability is a commitment we made at our Analyst Day, and we've
been able to deliver on this in fiscal year '22 despite increased costs
related to our supply chain. We will continue to make progress on our
commitment of 50 to 100 basis points operating margin expansion and 100
to 150 basis points of adjusted cash flow margin expansion beyond
fiscal year '22 through '24 whilst balancing top line growth
opportunity.
We're on track to achieving our fiscal year '24 targets we outlined in
our September 2021 Analyst Day, including $10 billion in billings and
$8 billion in revenue. We believe we can continue to deliver to
shareholders outstanding returns as a proxy for the growth of the
cybersecurity opportunity as well as world-class execution.
With that, I will turn the call back over to Clay for the Q&A portion
of the call.
Question-and-Answer Session
A - Clay Bilby
Great. Thank you, Dipak. [Operator Instructions] The first question
will be from Phil Winslow of Credit Suisse, with Hamza Fodderwala to
follow.
Phil Winslow
Congrats on just another great quarter of execution. Now in a quarter
where a lot of numbers really jumped out, the one, 73% growth in $5
million-plus deals and the fact that nearly half the Global 2000 has
purchased all 3 platforms really jumped out to us. Now if you put these
numbers in the context of the upside, the Strata product revenues as
well as the strong Prisma SASE customer count, Nikesh, what are
customers telling you about why they're selecting Palo Alto Networks
sort of at just an accelerating rate versus the traditional on-prem
firewall vendors or they call it the cloud-native zero trust
competitors? Is it just increasingly understanding the value of the
hybrid nature of the portfolio, the value of all 3 together, et cetera?
And how are you just seeing these competitive dynamics playing out?
Nikesh Arora
Phil, I'm accused of speaking fast. Dude, you're beating me at it.
Phil Winslow
That's why we get along.
Nikesh Arora
Thank you for the question, Phil. It's kind of everything you said. And
we've been saying this for a while that cybersecurity is consolidating
and the evidence we've been shown by people like yourself is, look,
it's never happened before. And I still submit that the reason it never
happened before because you didn't have a cybersecurity company which
would show you 20 best-of-breed products in its portfolio. Because
customers are not suggesting they will buy something you have because
it's in your platform, they are still demanding best-of-breed. And
we're able to demonstrate to them the best-of-breed.
But not only that, I think in the last 3.5 years, we've been able to
demonstrate our track record saying, if something is important, we will
make sure we deliver to you with best-in-class capability. So we're
seeing that. This allows us to go back into customers. As you can
imagine, if all you got is EDR or XDR to sell, if the customer just
bought it, you got to move on. If all you got is SASE, you got to move
on if the customer has bought SASE. In our case, our sales teams have a
very large bag of tricks. If you don't want SASE, you've got cloud
security going on, let me talk to you about cloud security. If you
don't have cloud security going on yet, do you want to talk about
buying more firewalls or replacing somebody. If you don't have that, do
you want me to help you automate your SOC.
So just the ability for us to demonstrate that we can help them with
the multitude of their cybersecurity challenges and also show them that
we're not trying to get them to make a very large commitment across all
3 of our platforms, they can walk and then they can run. They actually
start by taking one of our platforms, allowing us to demonstrate our
credibility and our security capabilities, thereby giving us the
opportunity to then bid for the next business that they have. And I
think the $1 million deals and $5 million deals are just a way to look
at it because $1 million deals are typically single platform deals. And
as you get into the 5s and the 10s, you certainly see that there is
more of a portfolio approach. So look, it's what we said.
Clay Bilby
Next, from Hamza Fodderwala of Morgan Stanley followed by Fatima
Boolani.
Hamza Fodderwala
I'll try to speak a little more slowly. Maybe just on the consolidation
theme, sticking to that. One, just from a macro standpoint, I'm
wondering if you're hearing anything different from customers around
how they're thinking about the spending environment? And in relation to
that, given the macro pressures on IT budgets more broadly, are you
seeing more of a willingness to want to consolidate to fewer vendors as
opposed to multiple different point products?
Nikesh Arora
Yes, Hamza, it's a great question. Look, interestingly, if you compare
and contrast what we're seeing today with what we saw about 2.5 years
ago, 2 years ago when the pandemic hit, believe it or not, there were
more industries impacted by the pandemic than are impacted right now by
inflation concerns. The oil industry is not stressing about IT budgets.
The commodity industry is not stressing about IT budgets. The CPG
industry is not stressing about IT budgets. The tech industry is not
worried about IT budgets. So it's funny. If you think about it, the
impact is yet to be felt in the companies. And even when it is felt,
you'll see it in some constrained industries because there's a services
boom right now. There's more jobs than people need to be hired.
So we're not seeing the pressure from an inflation or reduced economic
activity perspective. I will tell you when the pandemic hit, we were
getting letters from CIOs saying, listen, our revenue has gone away.
We're not sure when it's going to come back and how it's going to come
back. Oil prices were at $0 for a few days. So at that point in time,
they were all in that scenario you described.
We haven't seen that scenario. And I don't want to be way too
optimistic, but the fact that we were able to tide over that pandemic
moment as an industry to be fair in cybersecurity, I'm less worried
about it right now given what's going on in the environment because I
think on the flip side, as I said, you're seeing way more security
awareness and concern more than I've ever seen. And we don't hear about
it until there's a big ransomware discussion publicly, but trust me,
they're going on right now as we speak. Clay?
Clay Bilby
Next is Fatima Boolani from Citigroup.
Fatima Boolani
I have a bean-counting question that I'd like to ask of Dipak. Dipak,
on your billings performance, just to unpack the strength there a
little bit. Can you contextualize any changes to contract duration,
specifically reconciling some of the commentary on the megadeal volumes
that you realized this quarter? And also giving us maybe some flavors
on the Palo Alto Financial Services vehicle, the financing arm that you
introduced 2 years ago? And then thirdly, just around any discounts
that we're peeling off from the COVID era? So just to get some of those
dynamics, how we should think about the really outsized billings
performance.
Dipak Golechha
A couple of different questions there, Fatima. Thanks for the question.
So overall, I would say, let me just start off with the billings growth
was really quite widespread. Our contract durations have remained
roughly at around 3 years. They've been around that time. At any one
given quarter, they can change a little bit like a month or 2, not
significant. So it's possible that we get a little bit of, which was
the last year's fluctuation versus this year. But overall, it was very
broad-based and we're not seeing really many issues related to that.
With respect to the PANFS, I think we've had that in place for a while.
We're roughly at the same level of exposure that we've had before. It's
not massively growing. Nothing is really changing significantly on
that. So I don't think that's an unpacked like reconciling item. It
really is like strength of the overall business. And sorry, just remind
me the third part of your question.
Fatima Boolani
Just in the COVID era, I think you had been generous or flexible with
your customers with respect to payment terms. So there was maybe a
point or 2 of impact of discounts that are probably rolling off. So I'm
just curious if those have completely been flushed out of the model in
terms of discounts.
Dipak Golechha
Yes. No. So we track our discounts obviously very, very closely. We
haven't really seen anything particularly significant in our discount
changes either. So I would say that as you unpack the model, it really
becomes pretty clear that it's broad-based growth.
Clay Bilby
Okay. Next question from Brian Essex of Goldman Sachs followed by Gray
Powell.
Brian Essex
Great. Congrats on some nice results for me as well. I have a bit of a
bean-counting question as well. Maybe for Dipak. Could you help us
understand a little bit what's going on, on the cost side of the
equation? Really great job in this environment delivering on the
operating margin side. So I guess from a gross margin perspective,
impact of pricing increases and then from an OpEx perspective, where is
it that you're getting better cost control measures? And how
sustainable are they?
Dipak Golechha
So let me just start off with, the cost pressures are really all within
the supply chain area. We did take pricing. We took 7.5% pricing in
September of last year, followed later internationally. We monitor that
all the time, and we try to capture the impacts we'll have on future
inflation. We've seen reasonably good realization of that pricing,
which has been good. But obviously, the supply chain environment
remains fluid.
I think when it comes to where we've been able to focus on our
operating expenses to offset that, it really is just a laser focus.
There's no magic silver bullet. It's just a laser focus on the
execution, making sure that we're watching every single dollar, acting
like an owner, incredible intense scrutiny on travel because that was a
concern of, would that come back with a vengeance. We focused a lot
there, looking at leveraging scale when it comes to all the areas,
frankly. We've had good scale in R&D, good scale in sales, marketing,
good scale in G&A, but it's really just making sure that we're
purposefully looking at every single headcount and justifying it.
Brian Essex
Got it. And a lot of that is sustainable? I mean, in T&E, I would
imagine it would be relatively flexible. But how much are you going
back for sustainable cost measures?
Dipak Golechha
I think we're very comfortable with the sustainability like as
reflected in our guidance. Going forward, we just need to continue to
act with that kind of diligence going forward.
Clay Bilby
The next is Gray Powell from BTIG followed by Saket Kalia.
Gray Powell
Okay. And congratulations on the great results. So yes, a question on
the product side. 12 to 18 months ago, we're all thinking that product
revenue should be growing in like the low single-digit range. It has
consistently been much better, closer to 20% the last few quarters. So
how should we think about the sustainability of product revenue growth
going forward? And then beyond the price increases that you called out
earlier this year, is there anything helping product revenue growth in
fiscal '22 that creates a tougher comp in fiscal '23?
Nikesh Arora
Gray, first of all, we said this last quarter. We have been positively
surprised by the growth in product, obviously. And Lee has a very
interesting explanation on why people need more firewalls as their
Internet traffic grows. And I'll let him speak to it because otherwise,
he won't come to these calls. He told me that. But before he does that,
look, we are seeing the Gen 3, Gen 4 evals causing people to go through
a refresh cycle, which typically lasts 12 to 18 months when it's in
full flow and it's not yet in full flow.
As we highlighted, the market share changes, but there are people in
our industry who are not able to keep up to 12 to 18 weeks of supply
chain and sort of deliver firewalls. We have seen certain isolated
incidents where customers have drawn up POs for some of our competitors
and chosen Palo Alto Networks because we have product and others are
not able to do that, which the best way to measure that is through
market share gains. And these market share gains are here to stay.
They're not going to go away because you're buying something which has
a 6 to 7-year life and you're basically making a technology decision to
switch to Palo Alto Networks. So I think the combination of market
share gains, the refresh cycle, the increased volume. And Lee, do you
want to give your explanation?
Lee Klarich
Yes. I think one of the sort of misunderstandings with the move to the
cloud is that everyone thought that, that would be the death of
hardware. But the reality is, you have all of these users that need to
now reach applications running in the cloud, and these applications
generally are higher bandwidth-type applications. And so that triggers
a need to upgrade the firewall infrastructure to be able to secure
higher bandwidth connectivity. And so that, it actually is a positive
trend toward hardware sales and hardware requirements, especially as we
come out of the pandemic and more and more companies are moving back
toward a hybrid workforce where more and more employees are showing up
to the office as well.
Nikesh Arora
I'll give you an example. We're primarily in the cloud with our
capabilities, but...
Lee Klarich
Yes. A few years ago, we had a pair of 1-gig links to the Internet at
our main headquarters. We now have a pair of 10-gig links, just to kind
of give you an order of magnitude and I don't think that's an unusual
situation for companies to do.
Nikesh Arora
So despite us moving to the cloud, we've had to upgrade our firewalls
in our headquarters.
Gray Powell
Makes a lot of sense.
Clay Bilby
Next question from Saket Kalia of Barclays followed by Michael Turits.
Saket Kalia
Okay. Great. Nikesh, maybe for you. Again, going back to the billings,
great to see the acceleration. Maybe just to look at it from a
different angle. You've talked about some new attached subscriptions
that some of them might be higher value. Of course, you've got the NGS
billings in there as well. Can you just talk to how much each of those
are sort of driving that billings acceleration, some of those newer
attached subscriptions to the core firewall as well as that NGS
billings line.
Nikesh Arora
Well, Saket, thanks for your question. You've seen we share our NGS
billing ARR with you. So it's quite transparent. And you see that, that
number at that scale continues to grow in the 50%, 60% range, which is
clearly a big contributor to our billings. Our product being at 20%
also contributes to billings. We've highlighted that Cortex hit $500
million ARR in that number. So clearly, it's reached a milestone for us
in that entire mix. And as you rightfully identified, we have now 10
subscriptions that we run. When I came 3 years ago, we used to have 4.
So clearly, you should expect that there is a significant attach that
is going on, which will persist as we continue to sell hardware in the
current growth rates that we are. So higher growth rate of hardware
drives more subscription and services which with a higher attach ends
up giving a nice lift on our billings.
Clay Bilby
Next, we've got Michael Turits of KeyBanc followed by Roger Boyd.
Michael Turits
Great. So I think, Dipak, I'll ask you on the labor and wage front.
Given the shortages out there on that side, we've seen some large
corporations, some have hiring freezes, some are raising wages for
their existing customers. So A, how are you doing in terms of hiring as
many people that you need? And then B, what exactly are you doing in
order to maintain costs in that increasing wage environment around
skilled labor?
Nikesh Arora
So Michael, we haven't hired as many people as we were expecting to in
this market. It's a very tight labor market at this current point as
you see. Having said that, my personal view is the labor market is
going to become easier in the next 6 to 12 months. And anecdotally, as
you've seen, we're seeing hiring freezes anecdotally. If you think
about it 6 months ago, we were losing people to start-ups. We were
losing people to competitors whose stock prices were going up into the
right. The market rationalization is causing people to take stock and
say, wait, do I really want to go make this move.
I've already seen anecdotally start-ups start to stop hiring because
they're trying to hold on to their cash because they don't expect to be
able to raise money in the market for the next 12 to 18 months. So I
think from that perspective, the labor market actually, in our opinion,
is going to ease up a little bit. We expect some degree of wage
inflation, which is being caused because of the fact that we're in
Silicon Valley, and we live around some very large tech companies who
are trying to get people to come work there. So we have factored into
our planning some degree of inflation on our wages, but I personally
don't think it's going to be off the charts.
Michael Turits
Thanks for answering, Nikesh. Lee, hit you on product, but Gray got you
first, so I thought I'd hit Dipak, but thanks for answering.
Nikesh Arora
That's all right, no problem.
Dipak Golechha
I'll just add one comment maybe to the overall is like wages is one
factor that people look at when they choose a company. We've recently
had a Welcome Home program. I think a couple of quarters ago, we
actually showed you guys a video of it. And that's been remarkably
successful. We find a lot of people that will leave realize that the
culture of the company is equally as important as what was potentially
short-term gains when they leave. Yes. Well, a lot more important
ultimately than the gains and then the grass is not always greener.
We've had remarkable success bringing them back, and we'll continue to
do that.
Clay Bilby
Next is Roger Boyd of UBS followed by Andy Nowinski.
Roger Boyd
Congrats on the quarter. Just going back to the macro conversation. I
think you noted a couple of larger deals in EMEA. Just curious of any
commentary on what you're seeing around sales cycles and any sense of
whether maybe you're pulling forward some demand given the threat
environment?
Nikesh Arora
Yes. Look, in every quarter, we've seen some deals get pulled forward
sometimes with our salespeople because they're trying to hit quotas.
Sometimes the customer because they're in a compromised situation,
they're trying to get something sorted quickly as possible. Sometimes
it has to do with budgets expiring in different parts of the world.
December becomes one of those moments. August becomes that for the
federal government. So I think perhaps the best answer is that we have
not seen any unusual activity around that topic.
Having said that, as we said, we are seeing heightened activity from
nation states, especially with proximity to where the war is. They're
trying to fortify their defenses and make sure they understand their
attack surfaces as a nation better, which they have not had to worry
about in the past. They should have worried about it, but they haven't
focused on it. But now as people are trying to petition to go become
members of NATO, they've got to make sure that their defenses are
robust in case they see retaliation.
Clay Bilby
All right. And next, we've got Andy Nowinski from Wells Fargo followed
by Rob Owens.
Andy Nowinski
All right. Congrats on a great quarter. So I had a question with
regarding your next-gen ARR. Obviously, a very strong quarter, and your
net new ARR was also up about 32%. Yet your guidance suggests that net
new ARR will decline about 7% in Q4. Other than conservatism, are there
any other factors that we should consider that might cause net new ARR
growth to significantly decelerate in your fiscal year-end?
Nikesh Arora
Andy, I look at it from the other side of the lens. The other side of
the lens says, we had a great quarter. We're upping guidance across the
board for Q4. We're upping guidance across the board for the full
fiscal year way ahead of what we had promised to the markets in our
Analyst Day not too long ago, and that seems to be a wonderful story
and a happy place to be.
Clay Bilby
All right. Next, we've got Rob Owens of Piper Sandler followed by
Jonathan Ho.
Rob Owens
Great. I was wondering if you could drill down a little bit into some
of the supply chain advantages that you've alluded to both in the
prepared script as well as Q&A here. Where do you see an advantage? How
sustainable is it as well?
Nikesh Arora
I think, Rob, the real opportunity here is Dipak has a team of experts
who spend a lot of time trying to understand the puts and takes in
terms of being able to deliver firewalls in terms of ordering forward.
And I think that's worked out so far for us. We have been able to
deliver 20% growth, which is basically shipping as you've heard across
the board in the industry that most hardware businesses are building
backlog. We're no different than most hardware businesses out there.
During the year, we have more backlog than we started with or it moves
back and forth depending on what we can ship in different categories.
So the teams already have sort of their marching orders in terms of
what they need to go out and find. And I think the other way to think
about it is that from a scale and scope perspective, if you're doing
$300-plus million of product, the semiconductor cost of that is
probably $60 million, $70 million. So in a year, we're looking for $300
million semiconductors in a hundreds of billions of dollar industry. So
I joke that some of our other players in the industry need the entire
truck. I just need the box that falls off the back of the truck. So
we're doing a good job chasing trucks to find the boxes.
Dipak Golechha
So if I can just add like, the only thing that I would add is like, a
lot of it just comes down to the people and the quality of the
execution and discipline of the people. And that's really been like, I
think, across the board, the execution across pretty much every part of
our portfolio is what we feel most proud of and what gives us the most
confidence in our guidance going forward.
Clay Bilby
Next, we've got Jonathan Ho of William Blair followed by Matt Hedberg.
Jonathan Ho
One question for Lee to make sure he keeps coming on to these calls.
How should we think about the pace of adoption for Prisma Cloud? And
are you seeing any specific drivers emerge there to drive some of this
accelerated demand?
Lee Klarich
Yes.
Nikesh Arora
Thanks, Jonathan, for keeping him busy.
Lee Klarich
Appreciate it. Thank you, Jonathan. Look, there's some obvious drivers.
Cloud consumption continues to rise and you have to secure that
consumption of workloads that the companies are moving to the cloud.
That's probably the most obvious one. But it goes hand in hand with
that the recognition of all the different security capabilities that
are actually needed to secure that cloud environment. If you look back
just 3 or 4 years ago, a lot of cloud security was just maybe 1 or 2
simple capabilities. And today, whole businesses are being run out of
the cloud and the understanding of how important the security is and
what it takes to do that.
And then that then ends up leading to a choice for many customers. Do
they try to patch together a whole bunch of different point products
from different vendors and find a way to integrate them and get them to
work and operate them or do they go with Prisma Cloud, which is really
unique in the industry as being a platform made up of best-of-breed
capabilities that can secure their whole cloud environments.
And that's really where we're seeing that not only the driving new
customer adoption, but driving the expansion within our existing
installed base as they adopt these new modules. And as Nikesh said in
his prepared remarks, Cloud Code Security is the fastest-growing new
module that we've introduced. And that just shows the ability to
deliver a high-value new module to customers and then also the ease
with which they can adopt those new capabilities into the platform
they're already using.
Clay Bilby
All right. Thanks, folks, for sticking with one question. Our next, a
question from Matt Hedberg of RBC followed by Ben Bollin.
Matt Hedberg
So I have another one for Lee. Actually, we'll keep Lee going here.
Lee, obviously, there's a huge talent shortage out there for security
experts. And obviously, the threat landscape is very challenging. Does
that make your automation, orchestration capabilities even more
important today? And maybe how does that manifest itself in platform
attach maybe even beyond SOAR?
Lee Klarich
Yes. Great question, Matt. I'll actually reverse what you said. The
first key value that customers are realizing in that shortage is being
able to adopt security on top of platforms has a significant benefit
toward the ease with which it can be operationalized. And so that
actually is the starting point. Automation then becomes a layer on top
of that where the remaining manual workflows then start to go through
cycles of, what are the most repetitive tasks, how do we put those
through an automation workflow engine like XSOAR and build that muscle
of recognizing manual workflows, automating and then finding the next
manual workflows and automating those.
I'll give you an example within our own IT organization. We track this.
We actually quantify every quarter the number of hours that we've been
able to automate. A typical quarter for us, we will automate an
incremental 30,000 hours of manual repetitive tasks. And it's not so
much about the savings, it's about being able to then reallocate that
focus toward new, high-value tasks that people need to accomplish.
Clay Bilby
Next up, Ben Bollin of Cleveland Research followed by Adam Tindle.
Ben Bollin
Dipak or Nikesh, I was hoping you could quantify the impact of supply
chain you think was left on the table in the quarter and how you think
about that in guidance? And any longer-term thoughts you have on how
your strategy around supply chain has evolved or has changed because of
what we've seen over the last several quarters?
Nikesh Arora
Well, look, as you can imagine, the teams work hard every quarter with
our suppliers and partners to see what the art of the possible is, not
just this quarter, but over the next 4 quarters and even longer and
depending on the lead times of the items. And again, despite that, as
Dipak characterized it as a fluid environment, things keep moving
around even in that time frame. So we have robust plans with our
partners. We look at the inventory. We understand the inventory.
Remember, the whole industry has gone from JIT to just-in-case because
you can have stuff lying around for 3 months because the required part
doesn't show up for 3 months until you got to go integrate it. So
there's a whole bunch of stuff that's moved. And as Dipak highlighted,
there's a phenomenal team focused on executing that in a way that we
can deliver our numbers.
In terms of the demand, the backlog and what we have been promising, we
have reasonable line of sight if all things work in terms of what we're
likely to get on a quarterly basis. Hence, our guidance is consistent
with what our best guess on what will be available is, and that's why
we keep telling you guys that this is not a demand problem. This is a
supply challenge that we're trying to address as an industry.
So I think from that perspective, things are on track. Like at some
point in time, this has to abate. At that point in time, we just want
to make sure that we're not stuck with too much supply and we have the
right stuff out there. So there's a lot of work that goes into
forecasting, predicting, understanding product road map, understanding
the refresh cycles of our customers, understanding which customers more
likely to order Gen 3 or Gen 4. So a lot of planning, a lot of math
that's going into this stuff because my sense is there is a big
pendulum shift and a lot of people are ordering a lot of stuff. And
there's definitely, at some point in time, there will be more supply,
and we just have to make sure that we don't get stuck with too much
supply.
From a long-term perspective, we're trying to balance that. We've held
a view that we're not going to do too many price increases because
stuck with a lot of supply at a high price, it doesn't take a genius to
figure out what the consequences are. So we've been very careful with
our price increase. We're keeping them moderated. We watch our
discounts. And we're making sure that we don't order so much that we're
going to have a hangover. I think that works like that, does it? Okay.
Does that help you better?
Ben Bollin
It does.
Clay Bilby
Okay. Next we've got Adam Tindle of Raymond James followed by Brent
Thill.
Adam Tindle
Okay. Nikesh, you alluded to a GAAP profit in the near future in your
prepared comments. And just wanted to challenge this but admit it's
double talk since it's part of my thesis. But as I question myself, why
is now the time to show GAAP profit and leverage? The flip side is,
you're seeing momentum across almost all metrics. You could step on the
gas even further and go to market given the portfolio is winning.
You're having success in hiring yet human capital is scarce. And your
R&D engine has developed products that are clearly showing
differentiation. And Dipak, if you wanted to add any comments to that
because there's some level of substituting this for increased cash
margin in the future. So what to do with the incremental cash that has
a better ROI than a more aggressive internal investment strategy?
Nikesh Arora
Look, it's kind of interesting. If you look at, we've been sharing with
you in the past the amount of products we introduced into our field
force. And we've actually asked Lee and his great team to slow down
product introduction in the fourth quarter because I want to make sure
that the teams out there are focused on delivering Q4, which clearly is
one of the larger quarters that we deliver. So I don't think we need
more fuel in the product pipeline. We need to make sure that the
product pipeline gets to a lot of our customers.
Having said that, as you see, as we traverse to larger and larger deal
sizes, we keep driving efficiency from our go-to-market capabilities.
And we think we have, and I think I was counting, Dipak probably said
it 4 times and he wrote in my script twice. So he's clearly sending a
message. We are managing growth with the right aspiration for
profitability. So trust me, I am not shy if I feel there's an
opportunity and I need to go overinvest. We did that when we bought
north of 15 companies with $3.5 billion when the time was right to be
able to build the product portfolio. So if we feel that we're leaving
money on the table, we will go charge at it.
But I think we're striking the right balance. And if we see better
growth, we will make sure we go out and invest. But as of now, we feel
we have ample resources in our plan in line with our growth
expectations. And our key is to sustain those growth expectations over
time to generate most value for our shareholders. What are you going to
do with all that free cash?
Dipak Golechha
Look, I think it's a world-class problem to have, but I think I'm just
going to echo what Nikesh said. I think everything in balance and then
we really let total shareholder return and the ROI determine what we do
within the boundaries of what we've committed to.
Clay Bilby
Okay. Great. Last question for today from Brent Thill of Jefferies.
Brent Thill
Nikesh, on the G4 refresh cycle, you mentioned it's early days. Is
there a percentage through this you'd put on at 20%, 30%? Is there an
easy ballpark you can give us on where you're at through that right
now?
Nikesh Arora
Lee?
Lee Klarich
Yes. It's a great question. It's a low number. Remember, the biggest
chunk of the Gen 4 hardware was just introduced about 3 months ago
toward the end of February. So the first round was June of last year,
but the broader set of platforms actually was just a few months ago. So
we're very much early innings on this. We've seen very good early
adoption and interest from customers. And as Nikesh said, these
refreshes are 12, 18, 24 months in nature.
Clay Bilby
All right. Great. With that, we'll conclude the Q&A portion of our call
today. I will now turn it back over to Nikesh for his closing remarks.
Nikesh Arora
Look, I just want to say thank you to our employees, our partners, our
customers for allowing us to be both their cybersecurity partners, of
our employees for doing a phenomenal job all around the world. And I
also want to thank you for taking the time. See you guys next quarter.
